Bob Proctors The 11 Forgotten Laws? Not So Fast!
The 11 Forgotten Laws?
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The 11 forgotten laws seminar with Bob Proctor is now over. I saw that a lot of you attended using the free passes that I gave away.
I am curious as to what everyone thought about it?
You can see some of video clips here and read about the product Bob Proctor has put together, which is called… you guessed it: The 11 Forgotten Laws
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Did anyone here purchase the 11 forgotten laws product?
I have to admit, I have not purchased the product yet. Honestly, I am not sure if I am going to purchase it.
Here is why…
YES, I have been a fan of Bob Proctor’s for many years. He is a well respected teacher by almost everyone. I know that he was in The Secret, and I know that there is a LOT of BUZZ about this 11 forgotten laws.
BUT….
Even though the economy is falling apart and the news delivers one negative story after another….
My Life Is Great!
Using the Secret Course method, I have lost a LOT of weight, made a LOT of money, found a deep love with my wife and kids that never existed before and possess an attitude of extreme gratitude.
I feel like the luckiest man alive!
I work from home, get to spend time with my kids and feel incredibly optimistic about the future, not just for me, but for the world in general.
I have to ask myself “If it ain’t broke, why fix it?”
Seriously….
I’m not saying that I have all the answers, but when things have been consistently good, and getting better year after year, using the Secret Course, should I dilute my attention by creating 11 rules (or laws) that I must follow?
What I am doing now only takes a few minutes first thing in the morning and a few minutes before I go to bed. That’s it.
Of course I watched the subliminal videos for awhile and reprogrammed my mind… but I don’t need them anymore.
Yes…. I am using Brain Evolution to bring me deep calm and relaxation. IT IS MY STRESS BUSTER!
I believe it also increases my energy and allows me to think clearer. All of which are benefits of meditation, it just so happens that Brain EV takes me into deeper meditation than anything I have tried thus far.
Brain Evolution does NOT try to change the rules or add additional rules onto the law of attraction.
What if by adding more rules, or laws, I become sidetracked, or I find them hard to follow and then find myself feeling negative about not being able to follow them all exactly.
It takes me back to my original question of “If my life is going great… and the law of attraction is flowing through me powerfully, using the Secret Course method, what is my motive to change horses in the middle of the race?”
So what is YOUR opinion on the 11 forgotten laws?
As always… I love to hear from you.
I just came across “the 11 forgotten laws” website today for the first time. I instantly wanted to buy it…but after reading a few things on their website, I realized that the movie “The Secret” does not really leave out any of that (like the “11 Forgotten Laws” claim)! If you are using the Secret to it’s full potential by LOVING and FEELING gratitude for all of it’s teachings, your heart fills to the point where EVERYTHING they claimed that the secret “left out” ends up manifesting!
Stumbling on this forum really is “The Secret” at work- I hear your responces and anwers and it finallized my decition to stick with the basics. Thank you John and all the other post-ers!!!! And thanks for the good reveiw about this “Secret Course” I’ll have to check it out right now!
As an outside observer of ‘The Secret Course’ and ‘The 11 Laws’,
I’ve noticed that they consist of meditation, being positive, focusing on the things that you want, writing down these things you want, and whole-heartely believing that you will recieve them.
Also, feeling one with the enery of the universe, and feeling a deeper energy/connection to the people you care about…
One Thing Though….
This Is WITCHCRAFT People!
And i don’t mean that in a bad way, as i’m a Wiccan myself.
I just think it’s a bit dodgy that people are performing self-gain magick, without ever being aware that they are doing so.
Mainly, I just don’t understand why the developers of these programs feel the need to masquerade ‘Wiccan’ as a self-help course.
To anyone who’s already using this program, just please be aware that you’re using Magick for personal gain.
I would also advise those people to read up on some of the negative effects of Magick for Personal Gain.
In regards to this, i would like to point out something to –
Shaun Neilson – You said your brother went to college, had a good life..
But now you’ve got the cash & the good life, and your brother can’t even make the payments on own his house? This is no coincidence.
Look, all i’m saying is ‘Be Careful’, especialy if you don’t fully understand what you’re messing with.
Blessed Be
I really doubt this will be read by you but oh well. What I have to say is, I DONT think you should buy another program or change anything. I am also not saying that the 11 Laws doesnt work. I am only saying, if you are getting what you want in a good way, then you already understand what to do. The new Laws or ANY new program is for people who dont get it. If you do, good. You dont have a need to change anything, but if you dont understand, you may have to find another way, another perspective. Even though, also, you may not consciously know what your doing, you understand the gist of how to do it enough that you get your results. The only thing that the Laws will do for YOU specifically is teach you ‘the reasons why’. You know the how, but if you think that knowing the why will make you take your focus off the way your doing it and make into something you have to check the steps for, then it will over complicate things.
I’m so glad I found this review! thank you everyone for sharing your honest thoughts! One question… can someone please post a link to the secret course? I’m interested to learn more.
thank you!
Blah bla bla……Self gain is great but when everyone gains it is obviously much better.The only self gaining around here seems to be bob proctor’s pocket.The truth is we are born with everything we need and the only permission we need to get whatever we want is from ourselves.It’s a shame people put a price tag on this information.Human beings can be very greedy.If we pause long enough and ask ourselves what do we need we will find we are already equipped with everything and don’t need to buy it.
Amanda here is a link to the secret course
http://www.mysecretcourse.com/
Best damn law of attraction course. Period.
Thank you Levi!
Hi, I just found your newsletter and I am quite impressed. I am not sure what it is all about but it is definately subjects I am passionate about. I am confused as I ordered the course of 11 laws of attraction and are you saying you don’t need it because you haf the course the Secret? How can I get the course the Secret. I an having serious financial problems and very serious health problems from Chronic Fatique Syndrome and I have been searching the net to find something to help me excelerate my healing powers within. There is so much out there I do not know which way to turn. From Jose Silva, To Tapping can you tell me anything you have heard that has helped people. I am on soc. sec. and my income is below poverty level. I have no one for support and no family to help me or mate. Prior to my becoming ill I was a extremely positive highly succesful business woman. I opened my first 2000Sq.Ft retail store at the mere age of 18 with a 11th grade education and made so much money I had to hide it. I had a mindset there was nothing I could not do, have or acheive can’t was not in my vocabulary. I would almost sell my soul to be well again and to get back to the mindset. If you could advise me in anyway I would greatly appreciate it. So many of these things cost alot of money so I am hoping no to make an error and end up with something that will not really help me. I do not have the funds to waste. I know the mind is a powerful thing but I desperately need help to find my way back to life again. I have just about lost all hope espcially since my health has gotten so bad I am almost bedridden. It is tearing me apart to live this way it is not me. Everyday I ask God to help me find the path that I need to be on, if only my prayr would be answered. I read about all the success you have had in your life was it all because of the secret? I am very happy for you. I hope it was okay to inquire in this reply area a I did not see a email address to reach you. You seem most well informed in the area of life I need so I thought you would be the best person to offer me advice. I would be eternally grateful for any help or suggestions you could give to me I have never been so desperate in my life. I do not want to keep on living this way or I feel I will die. I use to be very wealthy but I have lost everything from having tons of money embezzled from me by my own family and because of my inability to work. To be able to be sucessful again is all I dream of and I want it to be able to be able to help others. I thank you for your time. Michele r. Rivers
Hi, I found it quite interesting reading all the comments here from everyone. I was actually quite surprised by some of them. I have not purchased either program but I have read the original book Working With the Law which is a fabulous piece of work. I hadn’t read it for years but I did pull it out again recently to refresh my memory : )
Here is my question. Why is it that people who have done so much good for the world get so many shots taken at them, I don’t understand this at all. I do understand that people have challenges with other people who are successful and this is just a result of the Law of Compensation which is something that we should all learn about as well as the other Laws of course. In my experience it is as simple as this. We are either working in Harmony with the Laws or we are not. We as people cannot change these laws. We cannot change the seasons, we cannot change the lunar cycle we cannot change the tides and we cannot change the fact that if we jump off a building we’ll hit the ground every time. Don’t try that one : ) I have often heard people frustrated and saying the Law of Attraction doesn’t work. I personally had a big awakening a few years back when everything turned upside down and I hit the lowest point ever. I had fallen away from these teachings I had originally learned 25 years ago. So I decided to get very real with myself and admitted that I had co-created this situation ( it wasn’t easy to admit) and that I was in violation of one or more of the Laws although at the time I couldn’t have remembered which ones other than the Law of Attraction. So I discovered that The Law of Attraction is ALWAYS working, I just wasn’t working with it in the proper way. I was working in a way that wasn’t benefiting me. Then It took me two years to realize this so if any of you are having challenges in any area, the answer is really simple. On some level you are not in harmony as I wasn’t with one or more of the Laws.
There are many wonderful teachers out there, we all have magnificant gifts to share, you just have to find the ones that resonate with you for the place that you’re currently in. There is more than enough out there for each and every one of us, there is absolutely no shortage. One day I may try this program and I may also purchase the Forgotten Laws, I believe we can learn something from everyone. My only concern fro you John is that you are on some level in Violation of the Laws. If you work properly with the Lay of attraction etc., you won’t need to draw business away from another successful person, you’ll be able to create just as much if not more if you work with the Laws properly. I know you have probably developed an excellent program but I have learned to ask myself this question before I do anything or make any major decisions. Am I violating the rights of another person? And although it is good to have choice, I’d rethink the way you are getting people to your site. This is just an observation not a criticism in any way, you too want the best reaults : ) This is a competative mindset rather than a creative one and this works against us over time, believe me. Wishing you all joy, abundance and prosperity
I for one am glad you are out there John, Thank you, and keep up the good work for all those who would much prefer you.
I love how you are involved with family and interested in each and every one of us, and! I would believe you over Bob any day, don’t know why? Maybe because you are just one of us every day ordinary people that has studied and achieved the results which speak for themselves. Thank you again.
I remember seeing Bob Proctor’s web page, but wasn’t interested in having a look through it for reasons of! …. it going on and on, and on, there seemed to be no end in sight, also seemed to be so so repetitive, no crunch.
I really can’t remember how I come to get in contact with your web page, think it was by accident, but am awfully glad I did, I found you to be more believable and because you have results to prove it.
I just know I would never have bothered buying from Bob Proctor’s web page, it was too long and tedious to get through, like! ….. on and on, and on it went, didn’t have the inclination to stick with it, found it was agrivating me so! I clicked out.
Bob Proctor Vs. John Derrick ?
Mr. Derrick wins hands down.
Ever send Bob Proctor a personal email and hear back from him?
Ya, I did not think so.
I bought John Derrick’s course and I wrote him with several questions and guess what? He wrote me back and answered my questions personally.
Bob Proctor? Can’t even contact him. He has people who have people and you never even hear from the guy. I did some digging and it turns out he didn’t even make this product. He just let them use his name for a few thousand $’s.
It is good to have a positive attitude and to love everyone, but it is also good to know who really cares and who is just in it for the money.
To Michelle Rivers:
Michelle, it sounds to me that you should buy John’s Health Meditation first. http://www.extraordinaryhealthmeditation.com Be quick while it is still cheap. I’ve got CFS too and I know how devastating it can be and how totally helpless and desperate one gets. Take courage, we’re on our way to recovery and perfect health! 😉
John, Thank you for creating this site. I Am Grateful for all of you leaving the messages on this site. Reading the different posts helped me out, in ways I that I was not expecting…Giggle. Thank you and May you ALL be Blessed Beyond Measure.
Cool Stuff here, I wasnt sure myself but I feel (like they say in the secret) I stumbled upon this website because it had a message for me. Dont buy the other book, stay focused on what you know! Thank you so much!
I have been ripped-off as I purchased the program and it was not delivered. I have tried to contact bob proctor to no luck. What happen to customer service phonne number. I need help.
Good luck trying to speak with Bob Proctor. It is not going to happen Mr. Lee.
That is why I like John Derrick. I can email him and he emails me back. I can even leave a support ticket directly for him and I usually hear back from him the next day.
Keep up the good work Mr. Derrick.
Hi derrick i was on your website last night and i went back today to buy and the price was $ 299, now last night it was $97 i’m on a low income i guess it will be bobs course for 97 thank any way derrick maybe you might put it down again 1 day i’m sure youve made a shit load of money from it.
Hello Adam,
Thank you for your comments here.
I think you are confusing the physical printed version with the digital download version.
The full printed course bound in a 3 ring notebook is $299, and it is located here:
http://yoursecretcourse.com/
You can get the Secret Course digital version for just $97 by going here:
http://www.mysecretcourse.com/
I hope this helps you Adam.
Best wishes,
– John Derrick
Hello Adam,
Thank you for your comments here.
I think you are confusing the physical printed version with the digital download version.
The full printed course bound in a 3 ring notebook is $299, and it is located here:
http://yoursecretcourse.com/
You can get the Secret Course digital version for just $97 by going here:
http://www.mysecretcourse.com/
I hope this helps you Adam.
Best wishes,
– John Derrick
I’m pleased to find somewhere that isn’t plastered with positive Bob Proctor info…. I joined his 6 Minutes to Success course on the understanding that it was a free 30 day trial and all you had to do was cancel before the 30 days if you didn’t want to be charged. This is a complete con…. I sent my cancellation email but was still charged and I then proceeded to send email after email requesting cancellation and refund and was simply ignored – no acknowledgement whatsoever. I finally threatened to start a blog about it and had my email acknowledged and membership cancelled but i am still waiting for the refund! There is no customer service number you can call and you are left with no recourse. I do hope others read this BEFORE they fall for the bob proctor tricks… if it says its free but you have to put card details in, unless you physically cancel the card they will charge you!
I also believe there should be phone numbers to order these products , I much prefer to speak to someone in person & get all details. I am always reluctant & VERY rarely order anything like this. Do they sell in normal bookshops? If so which one?
I was torn between Bob Proctor and John Derrick last month. I did some research and found that Bob Proctor has nothing to do with any of his online programs (6 secrets, 11 forgotten laws, and the SGR course). Other people run the program, and he just pockets his comission for the use of his name. He didn’t even write the sales page or even create the products. No wonder he has no idea on what is going on. (a lot of ripoffs).
So I bought the Secret Course by John Derrick. Read it, had some questions, and I asked John himself using support ticket thingie, and had all my questions answered in 1 days time.
When I began using the subliminal prosperity videos that came in the course, Mr. Derrick answered my questions on it once again, in 1.5 days this time.
Thank you Mr. Derrick for actually creating your product and writing your web pages and for answering my questions. You are a God send to me in my life.